When she was arrested, she self-described as a witch. That appeared in the police report because she said so, not because the cops down there really care much about those things. [Horry County includes Myrtle Beach, a really neat place which I have been to-- not your typical southern small town at all]. She used this "as a witch" statement to claim that she is being persecuted as a witch.
Her son was arrested for threatening to shoot some kids at school with one of the guns in the house. Verification of his alleged R.O.T.C. "with marine boot camp" status could be neither verified nor disproved. Her sixteen year old son is allegedly being held in juvie for his alleged threats [until trial?]. The booking site for Horry County does not list the names of minors. What it does show is that Rhonda Gruber's bail was set at 5,000 dollars and her husband's at 500.
Rhonda Gruber has been rather busy. She has sent her appeal all over-- it asks for donations as well as advice and protective energy-- and she has now taken her cause to the A.C.L.U. To date, the A.C.L.U. has not decided if it will be involved or not. She claimed to at least one blogger that Al Sharpton is defending her. She has also been cleaning up her risque myspace profile and naughty pictures; and no longer publicly displays a list of her myspace friends. [She has two myspace blogs-- one for herself and one for her mail-order witch business].
The search warrant was written for items such as child porn, computers, thumb drives, illicit drugs and paraphernalia, and guns. No witch tools were listed for seizure. Rhonda Gruber was not arrested for anything to do with witchcraft. The concern of Horry County is not with what spiritual path she professes to practice.
radical sapphoq's current verdict: NO money for Rhonda Gruber. NO sympathy for someone hiding behind religion in order to excuse bad behavior. And the following advice: take some responsibility for your actions lady.
References:
Below is one e-mail from Rhonda Gruber which was sent to an incredimail witch group I frequent. Spelling was left alone.
Following that are the sources I used for this post.
radical sapphoq
> >
> > My name is Rhonda Gruber AKA Wicked Lil Witch and I am a Proud Witch. I
> > am currently being persecuted as a Witch by a Lt. Kevin Duke of the
> > Horry County Police Dept. My life and the lives of my family and
> friends
> > are being threatened and destroyed by this man with the backing of
> > countless other officials.
> >
> > I was arrested Monday Sept 10th '07 by Lt Duke for Breach of Peace,
> > Child Endangerment/ Neglect and 1st degree Harrassement.
> >
> > This all began around the end of May '07 from many false police reports
> > from a neighboring family, The Luisettis, who also seemed to think I
> > deserved to be arrested for my religious beliefs. They stated such in
> > their police reports. When this began to become a pattern of filing
> > false reports, we began seeking Police protection FROM them. We were
> > told numerous times that we had no reason to receive their protection,
> > just to ignore them. Yet they continued to file their reports on us. We
> > were told the only we could do is file a Civil Suit. This wouldn't fix
> > the problem for quite awhile if ever.The Police Dept on numerous
> > occasions, even refused to file any reports for us.
> >
> > We had at one point searched out help from Magistrates in the area. One
> > told us that filing these reports was most definitely something the
> > Police could do something about and that they should but he was fairly
> > certain that they wouldn't. He went on a 10 min rant about it to us. He
> > even took the time to gives us copies of the laws on filing false
> > reports, which we took to this Lt Duke, who after realizing we weren't
> > going to leave his office too easily, Then wrote us report stating that
> > the report from the Luisettis was investigated and the allegations were
> > unfounded and seemed to be stemming from harrassement from the
> neighbors.
> >
> > Now Monday, my 16 yr old son was targeted for their harrassment . In
> the
> > morning the Luisetti's daughter had a young man assualt him at the bus
> > stop. We filed a report that morning. That afternoon another allegation
> > from their daughter that he beat her up Friday on school property which
> > led to his suspension since the school wouldn't investigate it other
> > than her statement and her 2 friend's statements. She would have been
> > getting on the bus at the time while he was on the other side of the
> > building getting a ride from one of his friends. Then as we were
> sitting
> > in my garage workshop working on getting the suspension investigated by
> > the school board, waiting to see if the death threat my son received
> was
> > going to take place. The threat came from the Luisetti's daughter
> > getting a young man to "kill" my son due to the beating she received
> > from him. He was supposed to be coming to our house after school. We
> > were then visited by an irrational Lt. Duke as he whipped into our
> > driveway screaming that Spencer was reported to be brandishing and
> > pointing an assault rifle at the Luisettis. Which isn't even close to
> > what he was doing. Duke then stated that is is tired of all this and
> > someone is going to jail. He didn't care to hear anything we had to to
> > say about our side. Anytime I was trying to say something I was told to
> > shut up or be arrested. He was VERY aggressive and yelling. He
> seemed to
> > trying to provoke an altercation. I freely admit I was upset and a
> > little loud but I was trying to defend my son. I was never violent or
> > out of control. I was just pissed and trying to make some sense out of
> > the situation. When I was told to shut up I did which seemed to further
> > anger Duke. I was only arrested after they put the cuffs on my son. I
> > then told my Husband to find a f...ing attorney and quick. This was
> when
> > they arrested me.
> >
> > I was never read my Miranda Rights to this day but the questions they
> > asked me were used in my arrest. Doesn't seem legal to me...
> >
> > My charges of Child Endangerment were due to the fact that we have
> > several legal weapons around a minor. I must inform you my son is an
> > ROTC member with Marine Boot Camp training in weapons, can disassemble/
> > reassemble an M16 on the field. He was also on the Rifle Team last year
> > and is Athletics Team Commander. He also knew our weapons, from target
> > shooting and cleaning. He even pointed out to the Police Weapons Expert
> > how to release the clip and open the bolt chamber as they couldn't. He
> > is very safe and well versed in weapons. I must point point that is
> > legally old enough to have a hunting license. He is also looking to
> join
> > the National Guard on his 17th B-Day, Oct 3rd this yr. Upon his 18th
> > B-Day he was planning a Military career. We are proud of him and is a
> > really good person. We are very upset with all the things being alleged
> > about him.
> >
> > To summarize:
> > We are being persecuted because of my spiritual choices, not being
> > Christian. Lt. Duke has a web page stating his religious beliefs and
> > infertility and adoption problems which leads us to the belief that he
> > can no longer separate his personal feelings from his ability to do his
> > job in an objective manner. He seems to have appointed himself as a
> > personal victim's advocate for allegedly neglected and abused children.
> >
> > The fact that I am a practicing witch is being noted in complaints and
> > warrants against me and my family. It has even been voiced in court
> > along with allegations stating I have cast spells on 2 cops and the
> > luisetti family by the solicitor during proceedings. My familiar
> > pyewacket seems to have been mishandled during the search of our home.
> > She was running and flinching from us the day after. I am very hurt by
> > this. Though this can't be proven, I know my animal and this is not her
> > normal behavior.
> >
> > We have always tried to help others and be good people, so this is very
> > hard for us to deal with. I am lucky to have a very strong supportive
> > circle of friends and family or we would still be in jail. My in-laws
> > had to take the majority of their retirement fund for some 20 thousand
> > dollars to hire a powerful law firm to help us. Though I will never be
> > ashamed of being a witch, I am so very sorry for all the trouble and
> > loss of money it has cost them to stand up for us.
> >
> > The reason for this letter is that we need all the help we can find to
> > fight this. Whether it is positive protective energy, advice, or
> > donations to help pay for this. I will not rest until I have made a
> > difference for all that believe in freedom of religion. I don't want
> > this to just disappear, I want to make a stand for all free thinkers
> > against persecution. We all know the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
> >
> > For all that believe in freedom of choice, please stand behind me or
> > even beside me in court while I fight. I am not a quitter and I have a
> > loud voice. I always stand up for what I believe in, all I ask is to
> not
> > have to stand alone in this. It's time to fight for what we all believe
> > in, not just lie down and take it. I have enclosed the papers that are
> > in my possession to prove my claims. I will include more as they come
> > into my possession. I am not easily scared although they are trying to
> > intimidate us. Threatening phone calls have been made to family and
> > friends even now. In supporting us, you are also supporting yourselves.
> >
> > We are looking to get this story out to as many places as possible. The
> > more people who are aware the harder it will be for them to get aware
> > with it!
> >
> > We NEED your help!!!
> > Blessed be.
> > Rhonda Gruber
> > AKA wickedlilwitch@ gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
> > 843-997-7558 or 843-602-0160 (happy to answer questions)
> >
> > WE NEED THIS TO SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE PLEASE HELP RALLY SUPPORT FOR
> > RHONDA GRUBERS CASE.. THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BE A MAJOR LANDMARK CASE...
> > INCLUDING THE ACLU MOST LIKELY
If you do not think that the ACLU should support someone who is using the word "pagan" and "witch" to hide bad behavior then please please, please email them at:
Same letter as above reproduced in scads of other places including:
http://kansascity.tribe.net/template/CreateMessage.vm?replyto=9f243f94-0959-43d
http://weblog.xanga.com/LadyValkyrie37/619176861/
persecution-of-witches-part-2-rhonda-gruber--xanga.html
http://weblog.xanga.com/LadyValkyrie37/617514333/
persecution-of-witches-still-happens-to-this-day.html
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/graniteville-sc/TDF5ERH89DSI6TGQO
http://community.livejournal.com/glbt_pagan/453883.html
http://gazelle.covenspace.com/blog/2007/09/29/heads_up_witch_in_trouble
http://www.bebo.com/Blog.jsp?MemberId=4820519579
http://shamanism.tribe.net/thread/d5e5a0d7-8edc-409d-90d8-7eef3c107ed4
Doubts being expressed:
http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=168560&page=2
http://semanticsearcher.com/details/18444229419957114046/rhonda%20gruber
http://forum.myspace.com/
index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.
viewThread&entryID=43358265&groupID=100021146&adTopicID=27
&Mytoken=711AD0F2-D21E-4CF1-A15C9BD6FA500A8865601777
http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=168560&page=2
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=15564298&blogID=315233396
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=68116470&blogID=314972145
From Stacey's myspace:
http://blog.myspace.com/
index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107303420&blogID=314218492
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107303420&blogID=315645790
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107303420&blogID=316238477
No appearances of this story on any news site that I can find, however:
http://www.horrycounty.org/depts/detention/bookings/index.asp
Rhonda and Steven [husband] were both arrested for harassment and for unlawful
neglect of a child...
Rhonda Gruber's tame myspace profile and blog:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=169358434
or
http://www.myspace.com/bwitchedproducts
and
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=169358434&blogID=311277126
4 comments:
If she is hiding behind that... i find it very screwed up... many people have went through hell... so they could be called pegan in public.. and they still deal with bull... now this woman is pulling this... just to get out of a drug charge... WTF.... I may not be Pegan or Wiccan but I do respect those who are the right to be that... but i dont expect them to hide behind it when they do break the law...
I am outraged reading all of the bullshit lies.. on the net. From
people that don't even know her, or what REALLY happened. Take a
minute, step back and ask yourself "Who the hell am I" to take he said
she said as fact? Read the following:
In regards to what people are posting about Spencer testing positive
for Meth..
Lt. Duke told a bold faced lie. One. Duke was not entitled to even see
the test, it was the test of a minor, and he does not have the right
to see such a test.As a cop he has no right to see the results of a
test of a minor. Two, the son tested negative for all illegal drugs,
including marijuana. Three it was also stated that Rhonda herself was
a member of the Pagans Motorcycle Gang, which would help elude to the
fact that she's a drug dealer, when it turns out that she was only a
local chapter leader of Pagansnightout, a monthly meetup group for the
RELIGION not the MOTORCYCLE GANG. Why was it mentioned in three
different legal reasonings for why they were doing the things they
were doing was because she was a witch? Currently as of now to date,
Horry County has no evidence to substantiate their claims, they are
between a rock and a hard place because they have to prove to
substantiate their charges. Without evidence they tried to retain her
son, because they saw that as their only "Trump" card to getting her.
It boils down to they want her, and have no evidence, but yet arrested
every member of the family. The family has proof of all the claims,
but yet the family receives minimal support from anyone anywhere. If
they were guilty why would they continue to fight this? Wouldn't they
just disappear instead of continuing to fight? All of the bad press
that the Grubers have been getting is because people blindly go along
with what the search warrant says. When she posted the search warrant
she didnt think others would turn on her, with the search warrant
being ridiculous, that is the whole reason for her posting the search
warrant. The cop LIED! Nothing in that is true EXCEPT that she is a
witch. Those that think she isn't still fighting, she hired and still
retains her own attorney, her son has his own attorney that is working
pro bono because he believes in his own words "150% in Spencer's
innocence." And his case is currently in appeal, because he maintains
his innocence, and he's had to be moved in with Rhonda's out of state
family to escape Horry County's clutches, which was a hard decision
for her to do, but it was the only thing she could do to keep her son
safe, and herself. I've been Rhonda's best friend for many years now,
and I am disgusted with the lack of pagan support on her behalf all
because of what a cop wrote. A Christian cop at that. She is not
"hiding" behind the pentacle, she's defending her right to her
pentacle. Even despite all of this shit, if and when she ever is
allowed a civil suit, a chunk of the money is going into a fund for
pagans like herself that cannot get any support from anyone or any
organization. We'll be damned if this happens to yet another pagan. Oh
and by the way.. this whole ordeal with Ms. Stacey. Who the hell are you
out in bumble fuck you don't know Rhonda, you weren't there for the
case and obviously you have no evidence to back even your claims. The
only thing she has is a document that was illegally obtained. If and
when it will be proven, she'll be in her own legal battle. I believe
the term is liable. Just in case anyone thinks that this is Rhonda, I
am not Rhonda. I have attempted on many occasions to defend Rhonda,
since the only thing on the internet is this game of "telephone"
nobody would even let me speak the truth to tell them what really
happened. But just like gossip anywhere else, people like to start
shit, and then everyone jumps on the bandwagon. You know.. as a friend
of the family and all of the friends that actually do know Rhonda and
the family, her real friends are STILL HERE, and are still a strong
support system for her. Unlike the rest of you, you don't know these
people, nor were you there. So how can you be so sure you really
really know.. what happened? You read what the cop says and you
believe the cop? What if this was you? How would you feel if the
situation was reversed and it was you, and you made a cry out for help
to fellow pagans, and find out there is nothing there. People would
rather believe the worst? How can you criticize another human being
based on what someone told you when you have no fact. The truth is the
only one with any facts at all, and documents and proof is Rhonda. I
am one of the few that have stood by her side, and listen to her cry,
and offer her all of the support I can. You people are sick. She has
spent HOURS on the phone with me crying because of the damage this has
done to her, her family, her son, her real friends. This has even
damaged me. Steve's father has failing health and wonders where his
son is. Steve was CLOSE to family. Try to explain all this he said she
said junk to him. Are you going to tell him that you just jumped to
conclusions, too lazy to find out what's truth? Or do you want the
majority vote. It seems to me.. from this experience, that this so
called "pagan community" is nothing more than a bunch of destructive
kids, playing dress up. If you wanted to defend your religion, you
would stick with the facts. If you don't have the facts, stay the hell
out of it.
I will tell you who the hell I am.
I am a blogger with opinions.
I will tell you also that I base my opinions on my research.
And yes, I have a right to publish my opinions, just as you have a right to publish yours.
I chose to publish your comment because you also have a right to be heard.
My opinion remains the same.
spike
I am the ex-husband that protected rhonda in all this, she is in a new place causing similar problems, she is all over facebook under willow gruber/garnett posting hateful things and calling for others to harm me. I regret having helped her and protected her. I am a good person. A firefighter (although that may be short lived now). She has taken a restraining order after making up stories about me being abusive and crazy. In hindsight I wonder what may have been hidden from me. I put up and lost everything because of her and the thanks I got was that she turned around and did the same to me as she did to the south carolina neighbors. Maybe I got what I deserved but I help people and do good things which I have always done. I thought she was deserving of help and I did just that. I published a story about what happened called "Betrayed by Justice" it is a short story on nook, kindle, amazon, i-store etc. I will give out free copies if people need. I am not a witch or pagan, just a helpful person. I do however feel that it can't hurt to have support and good energy to protect from her. She is trying to destroy me and is looking to cause me physical harm although the courts don't seem to believe it and refuse to see her history of destruction.
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